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Fantasy » alt.fan.pratchett » [I] Cult Films
[I] Cult Films [message #272965] So, 21 Mai 2006 23:04
Stacie Hanes  
I am, in general, very fond of cult films. I love Rocky Horror Picture Show,
Monty Python's Search for the Holy Grail, The Princess Bride, and others.

I just bought and watched Donnie Darko, and I have the creeping suspicion
that it's an effing stupid movie. I read about it, and I get that it's
supposed to be unresolved, and that it's about paradox, but frankly I
preferred The Terminator.

1. I'd like to know what other cult films people here like, as
recommendations.

2. I'd like to know which "cult classics" are not actually unrecognized
works of genius, but really ARE deserving of being forgotten.

--
Stacie, 4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons, Bondage-happy predator,
Speaker-To-Students,
AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion & AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED
"If you can't be a good example, you'll just have to be a horrible
warning." C. Aird, _His Burial Too_
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #272971 ] So, 21 Mai 2006 23:21
sphira9343  
Stacie Hanes wrote:
> I am, in general, very fond of cult films. I love Rocky Horror Picture Show,
> Monty Python's Search for the Holy Grail, The Princess Bride, and others.
>
> I just bought and watched Donnie Darko, and I have the creeping suspicion
> that it's an effing stupid movie. I read about it, and I get that it's
> supposed to be unresolved, and that it's about paradox, but frankly I
> preferred The Terminator.

>From what I've seen of Donnie Darko, it didn't appeal to me either.

> 1. I'd like to know what other cult films people here like, as
> recommendations.

I don't know whether it's a cult (I suspect not), but my favourite is
The Fisher King.
If you put aside Robin Williams generally being his usual self, the
rest of it is excellent. Jeff Bridges' character Jack, dealing with
guilt that nearly destroys him, is memorable, and Mercedes Ruhel is
good as his feisty girlfriend whose support goes pretty much
unrecognised until the end. One of the things that appeals to me is
that none of the characters are the perfect eye candy so often seen in
films, which makes a change.

> 2. I'd like to know which "cult classics" are not actually unrecognized
> works of genius, but really ARE deserving of being forgotten.

Showgirls. I watched this (well, part of it) a while ago, intrigued to
see if it was as awful as people said it was. It was.

CCA
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #272976 ] So, 21 Mai 2006 23:31
jester  
On Sun, 21 May 2006 21:04:53 GMT, Stacie Hanes
<house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>1. I'd like to know what other cult films people here like, as
>recommendations.

Oh boy, this should be fun.

Actually, I'm not sure most of my favourites count as 'cult' movies.

Blues Brothers
Big Trouble In Little China (probably not cult)
Priscilla Queen of the Desert
Anything by Ed Wood
Most of Mel Brookes' stuff
Hedwig and the Angry Inch (should be a cult film)
Dark Star
This is Spinal Tap
Escape from New York/LA

And a load of 80s scifi that ought to get cult status, including
Hell Comes to Frogtown
The Highwayman (made for TV movie, actually; pity I can't get that one on DVD)
Return of Captain Invincible


Oh, that'll do for now

>2. I'd like to know which "cult classics" are not actually unrecognized
>works of genius, but really ARE deserving of being forgotten.

Anything by Ed Wood. 8-)

--
Andy Brown
Hardware, n.:
The parts of a computer system that can be kicked.
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #272978 ] So, 21 Mai 2006 23:39
sphira9343  
jester wrote:
> On Sun, 21 May 2006 21:04:53 GMT, Stacie Hanes
> <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

> >1. I'd like to know what other cult films people here like, as
> >recommendations.

(snip)
> Priscilla Queen of the Desert

Ah, yes. Seconded. All actors excellent in it, but especially Terence
Stamp.
CCA
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #272980 ] So, 21 Mai 2006 23:42
Kar98  
On 2006-05-21 16:31:56 -0500, jester <usenet [at] jester.nu> said:

> On Sun, 21 May 2006 21:04:53 GMT, Stacie Hanes
> <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> 1. I'd like to know what other cult films people here like, as recommendations.
>
> Oh boy, this should be fun.
>
> Actually, I'm not sure most of my favourites count as 'cult' movies.
>
> Blues Brothers
> Anything by Ed Wood
> Most of Mel Brookes' stuff
> Dark Star

Definitely "cult classics", if a bit main stream. Then again, I haven't
heard of any of the titles I snipped, so that's balanced out then ;)

More cult classics:
Carry on, Cleo, and for our East German and Scandinavian readers, the
Olsen-banden movies.

--
My computer is so fast it can execute an infinite loop in 3 seconds.
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #272985 ] So, 21 Mai 2006 23:53
Stacie Hanes  
CCA wrote:

> Showgirls. I watched this (well, part of it) a while ago,
> intrigued to see if it was as awful as people said it was. It was.

Hmmm. I didn't think it was awful, but I ave to admit that I wasn't . . . um
.. . . watching for the plot, exactly.

--
Stacie, 4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons, Bondage-happy predator,
Speaker-To-Students, AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion &
AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED "If you can't be a good example, you'll
just have to be a horrible warning." C. Aird, _His Burial Too_
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #272986 ] So, 21 Mai 2006 23:58
Stacie Hanes  
jester wrote:
> On Sun, 21 May 2006 21:04:53 GMT, Stacie Hanes
> <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> 1. I'd like to know what other cult films people here like, as
>> recommendations.
>
> Oh boy, this should be fun.
>
> Actually, I'm not sure most of my favourites count as 'cult' movies.

All IMO, of course...

> Blues Brothers

Yes

> Big Trouble In Little China (probably not cult)

Mm, not quite

> Priscilla Queen of the Desert

Yes...there's a Drew Carrey segment about a showdown between Rocky Horror
regulars and the "new" midnight movie people who dress up in drag to watch
Priscilla. It's funny, but I lost it in a computer crash. I'll see if I can
find it again.

> Anything by Ed Wood

yeah

> Most of Mel Brookes' stuff

Mmm, yeah, if not yes then nearly. I almost listed Young Frankenstein, but
I'm not crazy about his other stuff

> Hedwig and the Angry Inch (should be a cult film)

yes

> Dark Star

Never heard of it

> This is Spinal Tap

definitely, but I've never seen it. I can even reference it, because it's
one of those that has seeped into the culture (mine goes to 11!) like The
Blues Brothers (we're on a mission from God).


> Escape from New York/LA

Not IMO, but maybe

>
> And a load of 80s scifi that ought to get cult status, including
> Hell Comes to Frogtown
> The Highwayman (made for TV movie, actually; pity I can't get that
> one on DVD) Return of Captain Invincible

Not familiar with those.


> Oh, that'll do for now
>
>> 2. I'd like to know which "cult classics" are not actually
>> unrecognized works of genius, but really ARE deserving of being
>> forgotten.
>
> Anything by Ed Wood. 8-)

LOL

--
Stacie, 4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons, Bondage-happy predator,
Speaker-To-Students, AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion &
AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED "If you can't be a good example, you'll
just have to be a horrible warning." C. Aird, _His Burial Too_
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #272987 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 00:00
Stacie Hanes  
René wrote:

> Carry on, Cleo, and for our East German and Scandinavian readers,
> the Olsen-banden movies.

Never heard of those, which only proves I'm a provincial American.

Any Scandiwegians who want to weigh in on those?

When you're done making sex movies, of course, in your own time. No
hurry.[1]


[1] I truly don't want to offend, so I'll cool it on that joke for a bit,
okay?

--
Stacie, 4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons, Bondage-happy predator,
Speaker-To-Students, AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion &
AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED "If you can't be a good example, you'll
just have to be a horrible warning." C. Aird, _His Burial Too_
Re: [I].Cult Films [message #272991 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 00:04
NiceOrc  
"Earth girls are easy." Jeff Goldblum is great - and in "The Tall Guy"
too.

NiceOrc
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #272997 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 00:21
Graycat  
On Sun, 21 May 2006 22:00:54 GMT, "Stacie Hanes"
<house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> jotted down:

>René wrote:
>
>> Carry on, Cleo, and for our East German and Scandinavian readers,
>> the Olsen-banden movies.
>
>Never heard of those, which only proves I'm a provincial American.
>
>Any Scandiwegians who want to weigh in on those?

Never seen the originals, only the Swedish "remakes".
THey're cult here, but so-so.

--
Elin
The Tale of Westala and Villtin
http://tale.cunobaros.com/
The Oswalds DW casting award - Vote Now!
http://www.student.lu.se/~his02ero/Oswald/index.html
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273001 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 00:48
jester  
On Sun, 21 May 2006 21:42:29 GMT, René
<Kar98 [at] The-Coalition.US> wrote:
>
>More cult classics:
>Carry on, Cleo,

Ah, yes, the Carry On films. How could they be ignored (although some of
them should be)

--
Andy Brown
"The question of whether a computer can think is no more
interesting than the question of whether a submarine can swim ."
E. W. Dijkstra
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273006 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 00:57
jester  
On Sun, 21 May 2006 21:58:28 GMT, Stacie Hanes
<house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>jester wrote:
>
>> Big Trouble In Little China (probably not cult)
>
>Mm, not quite

Yeah, I was in two minds, but I like it, so what the heck.

>> Most of Mel Brookes' stuff
>
>Mmm, yeah, if not yes then nearly. I almost listed Young Frankenstein, but
>I'm not crazy about his other stuff

I suspect different people will have different favourites. lots of little
cults.

>> Dark Star
>
>Never heard of it

<http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069945/> John Carpenter originally did it as
a film student.

>
>> This is Spinal Tap
>
>definitely, but I've never seen it.

You should, it's the classic spoof documentary.

>> Escape from New York/LA
>
>Not IMO, but maybe

A big maybe, but I recommend them as no-brain movies.

>> And a load of 80s scifi that ought to get cult status, including
>> Hell Comes to Frogtown
>> The Highwayman (made for TV movie, actually; pity I can't get that
>> one on DVD) Return of Captain Invincible
>
>Not familiar with those.

The first two are very good examples (though maybe not good films) of the
sort of post-apocalyptic scifi that came out of the 80s, and both have
Rowdy Roddy Piper in.

The third is probably most memorable for Christopher Lee 'singing'.


I forgot:
Deathrace 2000
Barbarella
Rollerball

Although again maybe in the "not cult but should be" category/

--
Andy Brown
Alliance, n.:
In international politics, the union of two thieves who have
their hands so deeply inserted in each other's pocket that they cannot
separately plunder a third. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273007 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 01:12
Puck  
Stacie Hanes wrote:
> 1. I'd like to know what other cult films people here like, as
> recommendations.
>
> 2. I'd like to know which "cult classics" are not actually
> unrecognized works of genius, but really ARE deserving of being
> forgotten.

Good cult films:
Blues Brothers, Bad Taste, any Freddy Krueger film, the Evil Dead trilogy,
the works of Ed Wood, Eraserhead (weird!), Office Space, Attack of the
Killer Tomatoes, Boondock Saints, any of Kevin Smith's work, Clue, Doctor
Strangelove, anything by Tim Burton or Terry Gilliam, The Howling, Airplane
(and anything else by that directing team), The works of George A Romero,
Little Shop of Horrors (the musical one!), Reality Bites, anything by
Tarantino, UHF, This is Spinal Tap, Texas Chainsaw Massacre (only the
original!), Yellow Submarine, Re-Animator, Freaks.

Bad cult films:
Any Jason Voorhees film (except the 6th one, which had a sense of irony),
anything by Lucio Fulci (yeuuch!), Gigli, Showgirls, Santa Claus vs the
Martians, Cool World, anything by Joel Schumacher that isn't Lost Boys,
anything by Troma studios that isn't Toxic Avenger, any Pupper Master film
except the 1st and 3rd, Shock Treatment, Waterworld, Baby Geniuses, The Ring
and its sequel, Robot Monster, Billy Madison, Jaws the Revenge, Mac and Me.

And worst of all, a movie that should never be viewed without restraints and
alcohol (though you probably have both), Manos: The Hands of Fate. This
movie is to Ed Wood what Ed Wood is to Alfred Hitchcock. This movie is a
weapon of mass destruction, and if Sadaam Husein had owned a copy the entire
war in Iraq would have been justified. This movie would make Mother Teresa
kick puppies. This movie is *BAD*.
--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273013 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 01:23
Orjan Westin  
Stacie Hanes wrote:
>
> 1. I'd like to know what other cult films people here like, as
> recommendations.

Ah, that would be a list of the kind of films we show Marco when he
comes visiting. He and Elin had an amusing little disagreement when she
tried to say what he'd said about them, and he wouldn't let her say what
he had probably said. After "C-film" and "Weird", I think they finally
settled on "Camp".

Tank Girl
Elvira - Mistress of the Dark
Galaxina (The Harley Davidson cult is alone worth seeing the film for)
Star Knight
The Disappearance of Finbar Flynn
Harvey
Bugsy Malone
Until the End of the World
Dead Man by Jim Jarmusch
Les Visiteurs
Nikita by Luc Besson
Bleu by Kieslowsy
The Seventh Seal
Casino Royale (the first, not the one they're making now)
The Ruttles

> 2. I'd like to know which "cult classics" are not actually
> unrecognized works of genius, but really ARE deserving of being
> forgotten.

Total Recall
Under Siege
Pretty much any Bond

Orjan
--
The Tale of Westala and Villtin
http://tale.cunobaros.com/
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Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273015 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 01:31
Stacie Hanes  
jester wrote:
> On Sun, 21 May 2006 21:58:28 GMT, Stacie Hanes
> <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>> jester wrote:
>>
>>> Big Trouble In Little China (probably not cult)
>>
>> Mm, not quite
>
> Yeah, I was in two minds, but I like it, so what the heck.

I think it might qualify as "classic." Cult movies are a special
thing--anyone want to have a go at defining it?

Is Bladerunner, for instance?


--
Stacie, 4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons, Bondage-happy predator,
Speaker-To-Students, AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion &
AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED "If you can't be a good example, you'll
just have to be a horrible warning." C. Aird, _His Burial Too_
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273018 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 01:41
Stacie Hanes  
Puck wrote:
> Stacie Hanes wrote:
>> 1. I'd like to know what other cult films people here like, as
>> recommendations.
>>
>> 2. I'd like to know which "cult classics" are not actually
>> unrecognized works of genius, but really ARE deserving of being
>> forgotten.
>
> Good cult films:
> Blues Brothers,

I think this one's pretty well agreed on

> Freddy Krueger film,

Really?

>the Evil Dead trilogy,

Yeah, I hear about those often enough to agree they probably are cult


> the works of Ed Wood,

Ditto

>Eraserhead (weird!),

Ditto

> Office Space,

Really? I thought it was cool, but is it cult?

> Kevin Smith's work,

Yes, definitely

> Clue,

Really? I *love* that movie, I just didn't know anyone else did. :-D

> Doctor Strangelove,

Again, classic or cult?

> anything by Tim Burton

But they start out pretty popular now, don't they? Is popularity upon
release part of it?


> Terry Gilliam,

I think Brazil might be...what else?

>Airplane (and anything else by that directing team),

Hmmm. They don't seem culty to me, but we may still be trying to define
"cult film." Maybe there's a definition we could use already on Wikipedia or
something, but I'm in it for the fracas.

> The works of George A Romero,

Agreed

> Tarantino,

Hmmmmmmmm. Yeah, maybe. Hmm. I especially would like comments from others
about Tarantino. There aren't MANY Tarantino films, which definitely seems
to be part of the "cult or not" question.

> Freaks.

Yes, definitely. Never seen it though. Happened to read about it last night
on They're Coming to Get You, Barbara, a review website. I highly recommend
looking at the site, especially the cakes. Seriously. Go there. Now. The
rants are terrific, and again, the CAKES.

http://www.theyrecoming.com/


--
Stacie, 4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons, Bondage-happy predator,
Speaker-To-Students, AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion &
AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED "If you can't be a good example, you'll
just have to be a horrible warning." C. Aird, _His Burial Too_
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273020 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 01:45
Kar98  
On 2006-05-21 18:41:46 -0500, "Stacie Hanes" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> said:

>> Office Space,
>
> Really? I thought it was cool, but is it cult?

Oh yeah, for anyone who has ever worked in any kind of cubicle farm.


--
My computer is so fast it can execute an infinite loop in 3 seconds.
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273021 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 01:46
Stacie Hanes  
Orjan Westin wrote:
> Stacie Hanes wrote:
>>
>> 1. I'd like to know what other cult films people here like, as
>> recommendations.
>
>
> Tank Girl

yeah

> Elvira - Mistress of the Dark
> Galaxina (The Harley Davidson cult is alone worth seeing the film
> for) Star Knight
> The Disappearance of Finbar Flynn
> Harvey
> Bugsy Malone

Haven't seen


> Until the End of the World

I like that movie. I find it hard to follow, though. It took me 3 viewings
to catch on that it was sf.

The soundtrack is great, though, especially a song that isn't actually ON
the CD. I think it isn't, anyway.

There's a Peter Gabriel song called "Blood of Eden," which plays during the
movie. The original is with Sinead O'Connor, but the remix is without her.
The remix is more bleak--it really grips me.

> Dead Man by Jim Jarmusch
> Les Visiteurs
> Nikita by Luc Besson
> Bleu by Kieslowsy

Haven't seen

> The Seventh Seal

Errrrrm. Is that Ingmar Bergman, or ....

> Casino Royale (the first, not the one they're making now)
> The Ruttles

Haven't seen

>> 2. I'd like to know which "cult classics" are not actually
>> unrecognized works of genius, but really ARE deserving of being
>> forgotten.
>
> Total Recall
> Under Siege
> Pretty much any Bond

Forgettable, yes. But are they cult?

--
Stacie, 4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons, Bondage-happy predator,
Speaker-To-Students, AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion &
AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED "If you can't be a good example, you'll
just have to be a horrible warning." C. Aird, _His Burial Too_
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273025 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 02:14
Brenda  
Stacie Hanes said:

<snip>

> 1. I'd like to know what other cult films people here like, as
> recommendations.

If you can find it, "La Cabina" (Antonio Mercero, 1972) will be well worth a
viewing. It's a (very short!) Spanish film, without subtitles - but it
turns out that you don't need them, because there are no words.

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273026 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 02:22
Arthur Hagen  
Stacie Hanes <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am, in general, very fond of cult films. I love Rocky Horror
> Picture Show, Monty Python's Search for the Holy Grail, The Princess
> Bride, and others.
> I just bought and watched Donnie Darko, and I have the creeping
> suspicion that it's an effing stupid movie. I read about it, and I
> get that it's supposed to be unresolved, and that it's about paradox,
> but frankly I preferred The Terminator.

You bought the wrong movie. You should have bought Donnie Brasco instead
:-)

> 1. I'd like to know what other cult films people here like, as
> recommendations.

Some blockbusters, and some not so well known ones:

Science Fiction:
Blade Runner
Logan's Run
Silent Running
Solyaris
Brazil
2001 - A Space Oddysey
A Clockwork Orange
Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning

Non-Sci-Fi:
Fargo
Das Boot
The Hotel New Hampshire
Der Name Der Rose
Blue Velvet
Contes Immoraux
The Elephant Man
Fucking Åmål
The Space Movie
Reservoir Dogs
Rumble Fish

> 2. I'd like to know which "cult classics" are not actually
> unrecognized works of genius, but really ARE deserving of being
> forgotten.

Science Fiction:
Plan 9 From Outer Space
Slipstream
Abraxas
Serenity
Battlefield Earth
Star Wars Holiday Special

Non-Sci-Fi:
Lawnmower Man 2
Porky's
The Blair Witch Project
Titanic
Eyes Wide Shut

Regards,
--
*Art
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273028 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 02:31
Puck  
Stacie Hanes wrote:
>> Elvira - Mistress of the Dark
>> Galaxina (The Harley Davidson cult is alone worth seeing the film
>> for) Star Knight
>> The Disappearance of Finbar Flynn
>> Harvey
>> Bugsy Malone

Definitely see Elvira. That movie is great.
_______
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273031 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 02:35
Puck  
Stacie Hanes wrote:
> Yes, definitely. Never seen it though. Happened to read about it last
> night on They're Coming to Get You, Barbara, a review website. I
> highly recommend looking at the site, especially the cakes.
> Seriously. Go there. Now. The rants are terrific, and again, the
> CAKES.
>
> http://www.theyrecoming.com/

Wow. I really want to try that thorax cake.
_______
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273034 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 02:41
Tony  
On Sun, 21 May 2006 23:41:46 GMT, "Stacie Hanes"
<house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Terry Gilliam,
>
>I think Brazil might be...what else?
>
Time Bandits, for one...

Tony. (retreating back to lurkdom)
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273038 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 02:52
Stacie Hanes  
Puck wrote:
> Stacie Hanes wrote:
>> Yes, definitely. Never seen it though. Happened to read about it
>> last night on They're Coming to Get You, Barbara, a review
>> website. I highly recommend looking at the site, especially the
>> cakes. Seriously. Go there. Now. The rants are terrific, and
>> again, the CAKES.
>>
>> http://www.theyrecoming.com/
>
> Wow. I really want to try that thorax cake.


I wanted to try a little piece of the heart, now, baby . . .

And the liver sounded pretty good. The intestines really squick me visually,
though.

I think your sig sep is broken.

--
Stacie, 4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons, Bondage-happy predator,
Speaker-To-Students, AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion &
AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED "If you can't be a good example, you'll
just have to be a horrible warning." C. Aird, _His Burial Too_
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273055 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 07:06
Rocky Frisco  
Stacie Hanes wrote:

> I am, in general, very fond of cult films. I love Rocky Horror Picture Show,
> Monty Python's Search for the Holy Grail, The Princess Bride, and others.
>
> I just bought and watched Donnie Darko, and I have the creeping suspicion
> that it's an effing stupid movie. I read about it, and I get that it's
> supposed to be unresolved, and that it's about paradox, but frankly I
> preferred The Terminator.
>
> 1. I'd like to know what other cult films people here like, as
> recommendations.

I would say Weird Al's "UHF." It was filmed in Tulsa and I was
(invisibly) in the crowd scenes at the Station. One of my alltime
favourites was "The Brother from Another Planet."

Then there's the classically *bad* (but still funny) cult films, like
"Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" and "Toxic Avenger."

-Rocky
--
O'Toole's Corollary: Murphy was an optimist.
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273063 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 07:42
Rocky Frisco  
Arthur Hagen wrote:

> Stacie Hanes <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I am, in general, very fond of cult films. I love Rocky Horror
>> Picture Show, Monty Python's Search for the Holy Grail, The Princess
>> Bride, and others.
>> I just bought and watched Donnie Darko, and I have the creeping
>> suspicion that it's an effing stupid movie. I read about it, and I
>> get that it's supposed to be unresolved, and that it's about paradox,
>> but frankly I preferred The Terminator.

"Napoleon Dynamite."

-Rocky
--
O'Toole's Corollary: Murphy was an optimist.
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273065 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 07:48
Stacie Hanes  
Rocky Frisco wrote:
> Arthur Hagen wrote:
>
>> Stacie Hanes <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am, in general, very fond of cult films. I love Rocky Horror
>>> Picture Show, Monty Python's Search for the Holy Grail, The
>>> Princess Bride, and others.
>>> I just bought and watched Donnie Darko, and I have the creeping
>>> suspicion that it's an effing stupid movie. I read about it, and I
>>> get that it's supposed to be unresolved, and that it's about
>>> paradox, but frankly I preferred The Terminator.
>
> "Napoleon Dynamite."


Okay, was that actually good? It just *looks* like it would make my eyeballs
bleed to watch it.

And I still want opinions on Donnie Darko. I thought it was dumb. Anyone
else?
--
Stacie, 4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons, Bondage-happy predator,
Speaker-To-Students, AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion &
AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED "If you can't be a good example, you'll
just have to be a horrible warning." C. Aird, _His Burial Too_
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273071 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 08:16
April Goodwin-Smith  
"Stacie Hanes" wrote in message...
<snippity snappity>
> 1. I'd like to know what other cult films people here like, as
> recommendations.
>

The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the Eighth Dimension
Amazon Women of the Moon
The Atomic Cafe
Babakiueria
Bagdad Cafe
Carmen by Carlos Saura
Charade
Eric the Viking
Four Rooms (especially The Misbehavers portion)
Insignificance
The Kiss of the Spider Woman
Stand and Deliver
Tank Girl
Time Bandits
True Stories

> 2. I'd like to know which "cult classics" are not actually unrecognized
> works of genius, but really ARE deserving of being forgotten.
>

Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. Patoooie.


Some of the above may not yet be cult films - but they should be.

April.
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273072 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 08:27
Stacie Hanes  
April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
> "Stacie Hanes" wrote in message...
> <snippity snappity>
>> 1. I'd like to know what other cult films people here like, as
>> recommendations.
>>
>
> The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the Eighth Dimension

I almost mentioned that one, and decided to wait to see whetehr someone else
did.

> Four Rooms (especially The Misbehavers portion)

Now, I've seen that, and it was cool. I've considered buying it. A copy came
into the used viddy store where I do a few shifts a week....if it's still
there tomorrow I think I'll take it home and at least watch it again.

> The Kiss of the Spider Woman

Yeah? Loved the book, haven't seen the movie.

> Tank Girl
> Time Bandits

Got other votes for those, too. With you on TG, haven't seen the other.

--
Stacie, 4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons, Bondage-happy predator,
Speaker-To-Students, AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion &
AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED "If you can't be a good example, you'll
just have to be a horrible warning." C. Aird, _His Burial Too_
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273079 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 09:05
Anke  
Tony wrote:
> On Sun, 21 May 2006 23:41:46 GMT, "Stacie Hanes"
> <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Terry Gilliam,
> >
> >I think Brazil might be...what else?
> >
> Time Bandits, for one...

Definitely.
But I think The Adventures of Baron Munchausen, Life of
Brian, Monty Mython and the Holy Grail are quite...
well, quite something. :)

*tries to think of other movies, but probably only knows
more or less mainstream ones*

I second/third/whatever Blues Brothers, Army of Darkness,
Little Shop of Horrors, Les Visiteurs, and Das Boot.

Knockin' on Heaen's Door http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119472/

Raumpatrouille Orion. It's actually a series, canceled after
6 episodes, but they also made a movie out of it (by
sticking together bits of the series)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061289/

The Olsen recommendation made me think of the
movies with Louis de Fun=E8s - but I think I was 12
when I last saw any, no idea if they are actually any
good...

Anke
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273082 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 09:12
Stacie Hanes  
Anke wrote:
> Tony wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 May 2006 23:41:46 GMT, "Stacie Hanes"
>> <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Terry Gilliam,
>>>
>>> I think Brazil might be...what else?
>>>
>> Time Bandits, for one...
>
> Definitely.
> But I think The Adventures of Baron Munchausen, Life of
> Brian, Monty Mython and the Holy Grail are quite...
> well, quite something. :)
>

I think all the Python movies are cult to someone.


--
Stacie, 4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons, Bondage-happy predator,
Speaker-To-Students, AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion &
AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED "If you can't be a good example, you'll
just have to be a horrible warning." C. Aird, _His Burial Too_
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273102 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 11:33
David Chapman  
From the Collected Witterings of Stacie Hanes, volume 23:
> Rocky Frisco wrote:

>> "Napoleon Dynamite."
>
>
> Okay, was that actually good? It just *looks* like it would make my
> eyeballs bleed to watch it.

It's a film that was made for the sole and specific purpose of being
quotable. As such, it falls into that special hell reserved for movies
which aren't even good enough to be called "shit".

> And I still want opinions on Donnie Darko. I thought it was dumb. Anyone
> else?

It's about as far from being dumb as it's possible to be. If you've
actually seen it now (which you're implying) and still think it's
unresolved, then you're basically complaining about having been asked to
think. The theatrical cut doesn't explicitly tell you whether the tangent
universe is real or Donnie's fantasy - though you can work it out - but it
sure as hell isn't unresolved.

--
If life gives you lemmings, jump off a cliff.
Re: Cult Films [message #273106 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 11:51
NiceOrc  
April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
> "Stacie Hanes" wrote in message...
> <snippity snappity>
> > 1. I'd like to know what other cult films people here like, as
> > recommendations.
>
> Eric the Viking

> April.

Erik - yes! Vikings do angsty-teen road trip!

Did you know that Thorfinn Skullsplitter now does the voice of Peppa
Pig's Daddy Pig?

NiceOrc
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273107 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 11:51
Puck  
While we are on the topic of cult films, has anyone here seen Jim Henson's
1969 expirimental television play "The Cube"? Not the Canadian scifi series
of the same name, but the black and white surrealist piece? It was one of
the most interesting little bits of weirdness I have ever seen.

Anybody else on afp familiar with it?
--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273110 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 12:07
Stacie Hanes  
David Chapman wrote:
> From the Collected Witterings of Stacie Hanes, volume 23:

>> And I still want opinions on Donnie Darko. I thought it was dumb.
>> Anyone else?
>
> It's about as far from being dumb as it's possible to be. If you've
> actually seen it now (which you're implying)

I have seen it. I had seen it before I posted. I thought it was dumb before
I posted.

> and still think it's
> unresolved, then you're basically complaining about having been
> asked to think.

Excuse me? Maybe it's the fact that it's close to, no, AFTER 6 am and I
haven't slept, but I *like* movies that make me think. I hate mindless crap.

I hate to think; that's why I do some sort of repetitive factory thing for a
living. Yeah, boy-howdy, that thinking sure does suck. Fuck that--I thought
the damn movie was just a little too impressed with its own cleverness.

No, it wasn't a personal attack, I guess, but I'm a little grumpy and resent
the "complaining about being asked to think"comment.

> The theatrical cut doesn't explicitly tell you
> whether the tangent universe is real or Donnie's fantasy - though
> you can work it out - but it sure as hell isn't unresolved.

It was, btw, the theatrical release I saw, not the director's cut. The issue
of whether the tangent universe was real may not be the unresolved issue I
was talking about. I think it's that causality and the rest of the time
tripping cliche stuff was . . . meh.

I liked The Terminator. When I was 14, I thought the time travel stuff was
*deep*. It kept me up all night thinking about the time travel kinks. I
still like "By His Bootstraps," Heinlein's "ultimate" time travel story, and
"All You Zombies."

Donnie Darko didn't measure up, IMNSHO.


<shrug>

I was rummaging around for reviews and fan sites, looking for some reason
why the damn thing was so popular. In my travels, I found various theories
by people who were really INTO the movie. Most of them said something about
blurriness of resolution. The director seems notoriously closed-mouthed on
the subject.

So if you liked it, I want you to tell me why you think it's so brilliant.

I thought it was pretentious and fairly transparent, and that the lead
should stick to screwing cowboys in the wilderness, not that *that* film
impressed me all that much, either.
--
Stacie, 4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons, Bondage-happy predator,
Speaker-To-Students, AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion &
AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED "If you can't be a good example, you'll
just have to be a horrible warning." C. Aird, _His Burial Too_
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273122 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 13:04
geminii  
On Sun, 21 May 2006 21:04:53 GMT, "Stacie Hanes"
<house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

>I just bought and watched Donnie Darko, and I have the creeping suspicion
>that it's an effing stupid movie.

It is. And this from someone who likes quirky movies, dark movies, time
travel movies, and moves with lots of FX and weirdness.

It just fell so flat.


-SteveD
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273123 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 12:53
Eric Jarvis  
Stacie Hanes house_damodred [at] yahoo.com wrote in
<VB4cg.5092$x4.2477 [at] newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>:
>
> 1. I'd like to know what other cult films people here like, as
> recommendations.
>

Goodbye Pork Pie...the great New Zealand road movie

The Cars That Ate Paris...early Peter Weir

Zardoz...John Boorman directing Sean Connery, don't watch it on acid

The Man Who Would Be King...Connery and Caine doing Kipling, erratic but
generally fun

Gregory's Girl...and not just because Claire Grogan is in it

Claire's Knee...the sort of introspective not quite a love story that can
only be made by the French

The Mouse That Roared...sixties comedy

and all the St Trinians films

I'm not sure any of them count as cult films, but you as an individual
should see all of them.

Galaxy Quest should also get a mention as possibly should Local Hero and
Letter To Brezhnev. The other films I'm surprised haven't been at least
name checked are Withnail And I, and Leningrad Cowboys Do America.

I'll also second the recommendations of:

Hell Comes To Frogtown
Dark Star
The Tall Guy
Earth Girls Are Easy
Les Visiteurs
Time Bandits
Tank Girl
The Rutles
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the Eighth Dimension
Insignificance

Oh yes, and my right elbow is in Brazil for nearly two seconds. It's also
a damn fine film.

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273124 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 13:09
geminii  
On Sun, 21 May 2006 23:45:29 GMT, René <Kar98 [at] The-Coalition.US> wrote:

>On 2006-05-21 18:41:46 -0500, "Stacie Hanes" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> said:
>
>>> Office Space,
>>
>> Really? I thought it was cool, but is it cult?
>
>Oh yeah, for anyone who has ever worked in any kind of cubicle farm.

I've worked in a cubicle farm or similar for over ten years, and it
doesn't grab me at all. A lot of other people in the same line of work
swear by it, though, so I guess they're seeing something I'm not.


-SteveD
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273126 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 13:10
geminii  
On 22 May 2006 00:05:47 -0700, "Anke" <anke.wehner [at] gmail.com> wrote:

>I second/third/whatever Blues Brothers, Army of Darkness,
>Little Shop of Horrors, Les Visiteurs, and Das Boot.

La Cité des enfants perdus?
Re: [I] Cult Films [message #273127 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 13:18
jester  
On Sun, 21 May 2006 19:12:03 -0400, Puck
<Kormos.4 [at] osu.edu> wrote:
>
>And worst of all, a movie that should never be viewed without restraints and
>alcohol (though you probably have both), Manos: The Hands of Fate. This
>movie is to Ed Wood what Ed Wood is to Alfred Hitchcock.

Personally, I think you're being a bit generous there.
I also think you could have left out everything between 'viewed' and the
comma.

--
Andy Brown
Happiness, n.:
An agreeable sensation arising from contemplating the misery of
another.
-- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
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